しかし、一連のタイミング見ると >>23の人の書いている通りなんだろうなと何と無く思うが 西側の方がこんなんじゃ暴走しそうだよな。 もう暴走してるといえるかもしれないが益々酷いことになりそうだ 事実台湾有事とか頭おかしいとしか言いようないこと抜かしてたりするだろ 0221番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 435e-K0SC)2024/03/02(土) 20:32:39.40ID:rnlPR29R0 The German Ministry of Defense is alarmed that a larger volume of information could have been leaked, and not just the published fragment of negotiations between German officers about the attack on the Crimean Bridge, .
“The Ministry of Defense is alarmed by this case, since other internal conversations could have been intercepted,”
that the question now is whether other communications of the German Air Force, as well as other military departments, could have been wiretapped.
The wiretapped conversation was conducted by German Air Force officers through open channels on the WebEx platform, which, is “relatively easy to eavesdrop on.”
In addition, suggested that one of the participants in the conversation even connected to the conference via a mobile phone, since he was in Singapore .
pointed out, many online negotiations between the Bundeswehr and the German Ministry of Defense are held on this platform. 0222番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 6f83-/LyI)2024/03/02(土) 20:34:49.03ID:ZB/bJI6H0>>220 このぶんだと米主導のイラン侵攻もあるかもしれないな 0223安倍晋三🏺 ◆AbeShinzoG2A (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ de9a-fX8G)2024/03/02(土) 20:37:06.16ID:kR7I0DhM0 英米が仕掛けた ロシアとEU諸国に対するあからさまな離間工作だったし
特にイギリスなんか何百年も前からずーっとこればっか ヨーロッパ大陸を引っ掻き回すのが本能に刻まれてる 0224番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 435e-K0SC)2024/03/02(土) 20:40:37.60ID:rnlPR29R0 “Civilians with American accents”
But that's only half the scandal. The Russian propaganda that the four officers were planning a German attack on the Crimean bridge near Kerch is really just propaganda. The topic of the meeting was the preparation of a 30-minute presentation to the Minister of Defense. He wants to know everything about Taurus, or at least as much as possible. And that includes what the German cruise missile can destroy. A mind game. Maybe he just punches a hole in the pillars? Does it ultimately take ten Taurus to destroy the road? Or are the ammunition depots a more suitable target?
The really delicate thing about the generals' chat is the extent of Western cooperation. This applies to all long-range weapon systems used in Ukraine, Storm Shadow, HIMARS and others. Now the world finally knows that British weapons technicians are deployed behind the front and that there are many “civilians with American accents” there. Target designation, target recognition, target setting and target guidance are not possible without the Western military's knowledge of control - or only after long months of training by Ukrainian specialists. 0225番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 435e-K0SC)2024/03/02(土) 20:42:21.20ID:rnlPR29R0>>224 The intercepted meeting reveals the close proximity of the Ukrainian army and its Western supporters, both in the form of politics, the military and the arms industry. It also makes it clear: If politicians want quick Taurus success in the event of a delivery, say within two weeks, they cannot avoid using the German military - “short track” in the English style of the intercepted generals.
The most revealing thing about the 40-minute meeting is something else. In its apparent objectivity, it exposes the mechanisms of military escalation. The naive news consumer, when he hears “escalation,” thinks of the effectiveness of evil – of course based on the respective enemy: from the perspective of Ukraine and the West, Vladimir Putin , from the perspective of many Russians, fascism and (as of Friday afternoon) Germany. 0226番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW e7a5-RtHD)2024/03/02(土) 20:46:08.87ID:FGMmarJH0>>220 自衛官がウクライナ行って ロシアと戦うとこまでは想定内☺ 0227番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 435e-K0SC)2024/03/02(土) 20:54:51.43ID:rnlPR29R0 French Foreign Minister Stephane Sejournet, commenting on the timeliness of discussions about sending European troops to Ukraine, said that a turning point may now be coming, and linked Kiev’s support to the protection of the French.
Propos recueillis par Stéphanie Le Bars et Philippe Ricard
Published today at 5:32 a.m.,
"France must be on the right side of history... To understand our logic, we need to be aware of the situation. This may be a turning point. Our support for Ukraine must be constant if we want to protect the French people," he said in an interview with Monde
According to him, a Russian victory will lead to huge economic costs in the West. Thus, according to the minister, Western countries will have to allocate not 2% of GDP to the defense sector, but much more.
"This is about defeating Russia without waging war against it. Within that framework, nothing is ruled out. This adds strategic ambiguity to our commitments, which allows us to demonstrate to Russia our determination to envisage other actions on the ground," he added.
As Sejournet notes, personnel must be present to clear mines, implement cybersecurity measures, produce weapons, and conduct training “on the ground,” but he denies that this can be attributed to joint participation in military operations. He added that the participants in the meeting previously organized by French President Emmanuel Macron knew that there was no talk of sending combat units to Ukraine, and noted the need to discuss this issue, even if there is no consensus on it yet. 0228番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 332d-K0SC)2024/03/02(土) 21:30:36.52ID:Kt+Kqgry0 Surprisingly Weak Ukrainian Defenses Help Russian Advance March 2, 2024
‘A Very Costly Option’ There are many possible reasons for Ukraine’s apparent lack of defenses.
Ukrainian officials may have been too focused on offensive operations last year to dedicate the necessary resources to building the kind of multiple trenches and tank traps that Russian engineers built since late 2022 in the country’s south, the U.S. officials and military experts said. 0229番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 332d-K0SC)2024/03/02(土) 21:32:55.79ID:Kt+Kqgry0>>228 “Who cared and who considered it as an option — because it’s a very costly option — the construction of defensive lines? No one,” said Serhiy Hrabskyi, a retired Ukrainian Army colonel, noting that Ukraine had few resources to spare at the time.
There may have also been a psychological element at play, the U.S. officials said. If Ukrainian troops heavily mined certain areas to thwart Russian advances, it would be a tacit acknowledgement that they were unlikely to carry out offensive operations in the same area at a future date. They’d effectively be writing off that territory to the Russian military, the officials said.
While Moscow began building defensive lines in the south more than half a year before Kyiv’s counteroffensive, Ukraine appeared to have begun plans for new fortifications only three months ago, when government officials announced the creation of a working group to coordinate efforts between civilian and military authorities. 0230番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 332d-K0SC)2024/03/02(土) 21:36:59.93ID:Kt+Kqgry0>>229 While Moscow began building defensive lines in the south more than half a year before Kyiv’s counteroffensive, Ukraine appeared to have begun plans for new fortifications only three months ago, when government officials announced the creation of a working group to coordinate efforts between civilian and military authorities.
Responsibility for building the first line of defense would fall to the military units stationed in the area, the officials said, while the next defensive lines would be built by civilian authorities, with the help of private contractors. Denys Shmyhal, Ukraine’s prime minister, said that some 30 billion Ukrainian hryvnias, about $800 million, had been allocated for fortifications this year. 0231番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 332d-K0SC)2024/03/02(土) 21:38:38.26ID:Kt+Kqgry0>>230 Outside of Avdiivka, Mr. Paroinen added, “there are new positions being prepared, but they do not yet constitute a particularly formidable defensive line” and are not comparable in scale to Russia’s fortifications in the south.
The Ukrainian authorities have said they lack people able to carry out the construction work. In mid-January, local officials in the western Ivano-Frankivsk region said they were looking for 300 workers willing to help build fortifications in the Donetsk region, more than 500 miles to the east.
“We have a lack of engineering units. And even the units we have lack equipment,” Mr. Hrabskyi said. By comparison, he and Mr. Paroinen said, Russia had far more equipment, materials and experienced personnel when it built its defensive lines. 0232番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 332d-K0SC)2024/03/02(土) 21:39:35.29ID:Kt+Kqgry0>>231 The absence of strong defensive lines outside of Avdiivka has been denounced in recent days by several Ukrainian journalists, in a rare show of public criticism of the military.
Delays in the construction of fortifications mean that Ukrainian troops may now be left to reinforce their defensive lines while under fire from the Russian Army, making the task exponentially more difficult.
Mr. Hrabskyi said Russia was currently preventing Ukrainian troops from shoring up their defenses by relentlessly bombarding them, including with powerful glide bombs carrying hundreds of tons of explosives that can smash through even well-prepared fortifications.
“The quality of these defensive lines cannot be good enough to resist massive bulldozer tactics by the Russian forces,” Mr. Hrabskyi said. 0233安倍晋三⚱️ (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 5f47-0ts4)2024/03/02(土) 22:14:43.21ID:3DCMU+fT0 ネトウヨずいぶん嬉しそうだな 0234番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 86ef-EVRh)2024/03/02(土) 22:34:53.61ID:ts8gichj0 ヤバすぎてドン引き 0235安倍晋三 ◆abeshinzo. (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 8b54-d8Bj)2024/03/02(土) 23:48:53.05ID:PyEbwVOy0 これ以上巻き込まれない為にわざとリークさせたろ ショルツやりおるね😁 0236番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ ca63-4cDx)2024/03/02(土) 23:52:08.68ID:iHYxPePp0 キエフ防衛戦の時点でアメリカイギリス軍が協力してたろ あんな大量のジャベリン部隊をウクライナ軍が事前に養成できてたとは思えない 0237安倍晋三🏺 ◆ABeSHInzoo (ﾜｯﾁｮｲW 43e4-uT84)2024/03/02(土) 23:53:32.22ID:P4PUKNNX0 なんで隠すの 0238安倍晋三🏺 ◆ABeSHInzoo (ｽｯﾌﾟ Sdea-pQv0)2024/03/02(土) 23:53:36.10ID:TjrhWHv5d このスレデフォネームのあぼーん多すぎて草 どっから来たんだよ 0239番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾜｯﾁｮｲ 9f8e-5fuq)2024/03/03(日) 00:15:46.33ID:JkIvwLVJ0>>223 イギリスにとってみたら、大陸欧州が一枚岩になられることが一番の悪夢 大陸の国同士の間に楔を打ち込み、欧州が決して一枚岩にならないことがイギリスにとっても最大の国益 ロシアとドイツが組まれたら最強の大陸欧州が誕生する イギリスはただの辺境の小国に成り下がる
Ein geheimes Gespräch von Luftwaffen-Offizieren unter anderem zum Thema "Taurus" wurde abgehört. Das bestätigte das Verteidigungsministerium dem ARD-Hauptstadtstudio. Experten sprechen von einem "Super-GAU". 0244番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW 8bd6-YNsC)2024/03/03(日) 06:58:58.53ID:uALCmB5200303>>243 38 Minuten ist der gestern von russischen Propagandakanälen veröffentlichte Mitschnitt lang. Zu hören: Details, die so wohl nie an die Öffentlichkeit gelangen sollten. Das Verteidigungsministerium bestätigt jetzt ebenfalls gegenüber dem ARD-Hauptstadtstudio: Es gibt einen Abhörfall."Es ist nach unserer Einschätzung ein Gespräch im Bereich der Luftwaffe abgehört worden", erklärte ein Sprecher. "Ob in der aufgezeichneten oder verschriftlichten Variante, die in den sozialen Medien kursieren, Veränderungen vorgenommen wurden, können wir derzeit nicht gesichert sagen", ergänzte er. 0245番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW 8bd6-YNsC)2024/03/03(日) 07:00:23.02ID:uALCmB5200303>>244 Kanzler Olaf Scholz (SPD), der heute Vormittag eine Privataudienz beim Papst in Rom hatte, zeigte sich nach Bekanntwerden des Spionagefalls zumindest hochgradig besorgt: "Das, was dort berichtet wird, ist eine sehr ernste Angelegenheit und deshalb wird das jetzt sehr intensiv, sehr sorgfältig und sehr zügig aufgeklärt. Das ist auch notwendig." 0246番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰ Sa0f-+Csh)2024/03/03(日) 07:01:57.49ID:MNgzutFsa0303 義勇軍・兵という形で外国人は7万人は参戦してると言われている 0247安倍晋三🏺 ◆ABeSHInzoo (ﾋｯﾅｰW 0f77-Y+eB)2024/03/03(日) 07:01:59.84ID:7knbg9vQ00303 イギリスはEU抜けたし 0248番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW 8bd6-YNsC)2024/03/03(日) 07:02:18.19ID:uALCmB5200303>>245 Offenes Gespräch unter Luftwaffen-Offizieren
In der offenbar am 19. Februar von Russen mitgehörten Internetkonferenz hochrangiger Luftwaffen-Offiziere geht es um die Vorbereitung eines 30-minütigen Briefings für Verteidigungsminister Boris Pistorius (SPD) zur Machbarkeit eines "Taurus"-Einsatzes in der Ukraine.
Die Offiziere reden offen unter anderem darüber, das US-amerikanische und britische Militärs in der Ukraine am Boden agieren und besprechen Möglichkeiten, ukrainisches Personal für den "Taurus"-Einsatz in Deutschland auszubilden. Thema ist auch ein Einsatz der Waffe beispielsweise gegen die Kertsch-Brücke, die das russische Festland mit der Krim verbindet. 0249安倍晋三🏺 ◆ABeSHInzoo (ﾋｯﾅｰ 9f64-ZLJX)2024/03/03(日) 09:48:11.85ID:NoEjPiLT00303 最初はヘルメットしか渡さん言うてたのに いつのまにか泥沼にハマって金は出さされる 武器も出さされる。 ノルド壊されてガスはアメリカから4倍の値段で買わされる BMWなどの国内製造業は出ていく 右派政権に支持を奪われる さらに目と鼻差の先にあるカリーニングランドから核で狙われる 完全ドイツ一人負けやからなあ 0250番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW ef1e-AMdB)2024/03/03(日) 11:05:00.89ID:WAgwnl2700303 ドイツは賠償したので、もう禊ぎは済んだ 貸し借り無しで もう他国からの指摘は受けませんというスタンスらしい
第二に、ドイツ国民に対しても大嘘をついたことになり、 しかも、その内容がドイツの実質的な参戦であり、 それは国民を戦禍に晒す危険な行為なので二重に悪質 0255番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW ef80-YNsC)2024/03/03(日) 15:24:25.19ID:8UyeBLQ200303 Ukrainian grain is destroying EU agriculture March 3 European farmers are increasingly protesting against duty-free import of Ukrainian agricultural products into the EU, Terre-net reports.
A demonstration in Bulgaria, the dumping of Ukrainian grain on the border with Poland, a rally involving 900 tractors in Brussels, and the slogan: “We want to help, but not at any cost” from Romanian agricultural workers were the latest manifestations of this anger.
Farm unions in France and Germany are warning that Ukraine's integration into the European food industry would be a disaster and could lead to the complete disappearance of family farming in Europe.
As the publication explains, vast arable lands make Ukraine a major exporter of wheat, corn and sunflowers. At the same time, Ukrainian products in the EU are exempt from customs duties in the name of European solidarity, but are still far from European standards, especially with regard to pesticides.
Although the Poles, Romanians or Bulgarians have agreed to allow Ukrainian grain to transit through their territory, they require guarantees that it will be supplied to the world market and not used to lower prices in Europe.
As the publication notes, the European policy of solidarity with Ukraine is detrimental to EU farmers; if previously Ukraine exported 20 thousand tons of sugar per year to the European Union, then in 2023-2024, according to French sugar beet producers, its volume may exceed 700 thousand tons .
At the end of January, Brussels announced a mechanism for reintroducing customs duties on “sensitive” products: poultry, eggs and sugar.
Grain producers immediately called for similar measures for wheat, barley and corn, warning of the risk of a “collapse of the common market”. 0256番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰ 4fe1-eOBD)2024/03/03(日) 15:30:50.47ID:L2DQCka000303 早く日本もNATO加盟だろ
と誰も言わない やっぱり日本はパヨク９条の国なんだよなあ 0257番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW ef80-YNsC)2024/03/03(日) 15:47:36.31ID:8UyeBLQ200303 [Exclusif] Présidentielle 2027 : Marine Le Pen l’emporterait au second tour face à Gabriel Attal selon un sondage Ifop Dans un sondage exclusif, la candidate du Rassemblement national est donnée pour la première fois gagnante face à Gabriel Attal au second tour de l'élection présidentielle en 2027. Elle fait jeu égal avec Édouard Philippe. Analyse d'un basculement. 0258番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW ef80-YNsC)2024/03/03(日) 15:50:15.61ID:8UyeBLQ200303>>257 Favorite ? Marine Le Pen a beau se méfier de ce statut prématuré, les résultats du sondage exclusif Ifop pour Valeurs actuelles que nous publions cette semaine ne devraient en rien diminuer la petite musique lancinante du moment.
La chef de file du Rassemblement national (51 %) devance pour la première fois Gabriel Attal (50 %) dans un éventuel second tour de l’élection présidentielle 2027. La présidente du groupe RN à l’Assemblée nationale fait jeu égal (50 %) avec Édouard Philippe, l’actuel maire du Havre et ancien Premier ministre. « Une victoire de Marine Le Pen n’est plus dans le domaine de l’impensable, le scénario n’a jamais été aussi plausible au regard des chiffres, confie Jérôme Fourquet, politologue et directeur du département « Opinion » de l’Ifop. La dynamique frontiste se confirme et s’amplifie de sondage en sondage. » 0259番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW ef80-YNsC)2024/03/03(日) 15:52:51.00ID:8UyeBLQ200303>>258 Avec 36 % d’intentions de vote au premier tour, Marine Le Pen réalise la meilleure performance sondagière de sa carrière politique… et accroît encore un peu plus son avance sur ses adversaires. Propulsé à Matignon par Emmanuel Macron, Gabriel Attal (22 %) ne parvient pas, pour le moment, à capitaliser sur sa nouvelle position – et sa cote de popularité – pour distancer le toujours discret mais stable Édouard Philippe (22 %). Derrière, seul Jean-Luc Mélenchon (14 %) dépasse la barre symbolique du score à deux chiffres. 0260番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW ef80-YNsC)2024/03/03(日) 15:55:00.29ID:8UyeBLQ200303>>259 Un bloc « national » à 45 % dès le premier tour
Le président de Reconquête Éric Zemmour (6 %) devance son concurrent Laurent Wauquiez (5,5 % face à Attal, 4,5 % face à Philippe), candidat putatif des Républicains. « Une candidate qui, dans une société que je qualifie d’archipélisée, parvient à fédérer plus de 30 % de l’électorat dès le premier tour, c’est un sacré tour de force », analyse Jérôme Fourquet, qui tient à rappeler le caractère fluctuant d’une prévision réalisée plus de trois avant le prochain scrutin élyséen. 0261番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW ef80-YNsC)2024/03/03(日) 15:56:48.45ID:8UyeBLQ200303>>260 Autre enseignement : le bloc « national » composé de Marine Le Pen, Eric Zemmour et Nicolas Dupont-Aignan (2,5 %) représente environ 45 % des voix dès le premier tour. « C’est un chiffre considérable, note le politologue. Le coup de barre à droite donné par Emmanuel Macron ces dernières semaines symbolise une prise de conscience de la part de l’exécutif d’un basculement profond de l’opinion, notamment sur les sujets régaliens. » 0262番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW ef80-YNsC)2024/03/03(日) 15:57:43.27ID:8UyeBLQ200303>>261 Marine Le Pen apparaît aujourd’hui comme la seule alternative crédible au macronisme et la grande gagnante des multiples crises sociales qui ont fracturé le pays ces 12 derniers mois. Fin mars 2023, après l’adoption dans la fureur de la réforme des retraites, la figure du Rassemblement national est estimée à 29 % des voix au premier tour 2027, six points de plus que son score en 2022. 0263番組の途中ですがアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW ef50-AMdB)2024/03/03(日) 16:30:51.02ID:WAgwnl2700303 簡単に盗聴される無能しか西側にいない そりゃ負けるわけだ 0264番組の途中でもないけどアフィサイトへの転載は禁止です (ﾋｯﾅｰW ef56-7bv0)2024/03/03(日) 16:56:13.48ID:3NBGtX3I00303 大ニュースなのにマスゴミの扱いちいせえな
