【悲報】バイデン「凍結したロシアの資産、ウクライナにつかったろｗ」 [733893279]
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バイデン氏、ロシア凍結資産の活用案で進展求める－Ｇ７サミット前に
Alberto Nardelli、Jennifer Jacobs、Viktoria Dendrinou
2024年3月1日 3:02 JST
対ウクライナ支援に回すことをＧ７で協議、サミットは６月開催
バイデン氏、ウクライナ敗北なら国際秩序が崩壊との懸念を伝える
バイデン米大統領は６月に開かれる主要７カ国（Ｇ７）首脳会議までに、凍結したロシア銀行（中央銀行）の資産を対ウクライナ支援に活用する計画を進展させたいと考えている。この件に詳しい関係者が匿名を条件に明らかにした。
Ｇ７当局者は約2800億ドル（約42兆円）に上る凍結資産を利用するための選択肢を議論しており、これには資金を担保にした借り入れや保証の提供などが含まれているという。
https://www.bloomberg.co.jp/news/articles/2024-02-29/S9MNG3DWX2PT00 >>216
実は知的財産制度って
各国が備える義務もないし
制度内容をどうするかも自由やからね
ただ実質的にはアメリカ企業と取り引きを行う必要上
西側諸国はアメリカと揃えふ必要があるけど
ここまでアメリカにしてやられてこれからもずっと難癖つけられるのが確定してるのなら
むしろそういったしがらみから気軽に抜け出せそうやね アメポチ
「イスラエルの侵略はOK、ロシアの侵略はNG」
プーアノン
「ロシアの侵略はOK、イスラエルの侵略はNG」 ロシア版マクドナルド、今だったら海外進出してもイスラエル嫌いの人達に歓迎されそう バイデンは認知症で頭の中がアメリカ一強だった時代で止まってるから
脱アメリカを促してる事に気付いてなさそう 追い込まれたらルール無用の振る舞いをするのは西側も東側も変わらんってこったな >>1
文盲乙
＞バイデン氏は凍結資金の活用を通じて、ウクライナ予算や戦後の復興資金の確保で一助になることを望んでいる、と関係者は話した。
＞凍結資金の活用が援助の必要性に取って代わるとはバイデン氏は考えていないという。
つまり復興支援が目的てこと >>217
凄いバカだな、大国による一方的な侵略
しかも領土の２割も取られてて国民の多くが今も戦う意志がある
のに講和しろとか、こういうアホが自国に同じことおきたら真っ先に逃げ出す 平和的解決に導いていくのがアメリカの役割だと思うんだけどなあ >>224
欧米「ルール的にはどう？」
世界「無理っす」
欧米「解釈変えてみるのはどうよ？」
世界「ダメっぽいっすねぇ…」
欧米「じゃルールを変えるしかないよな」
世界「すみません！解釈変えたらOKでした！」
こんな感じ >>226
でも自分たちの資産だけじゃ戦えないんでしょ？ >>228
銀行「いやこれ無理あるでしょ…」
アメリカ「あ？俺様の言うことがきけねえのか？今後の商売がどうなるかわかってんだろうな？」
銀行「ひいい…あっなんか解釈変えたら大丈夫っぽいです…」
アメリカ「最初からそういえばいいんだよ」
アメリカはいつもこれ >>232
書簡は、ウクライナ侵攻により「ロシアは、国際法の最も根本的なルールに違反した」と強調。「国際法は、『対抗措置』を取ることを認めている」と指摘し、ロシア政府の資産をウクライナなどへの補償に利用できると結論づけた。
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/552e7741349ca5ad274857bbf2bc191041e2f5cb
国際法の概念としてロシアのやってることがダメだから、対抗措置としてやっていいよ
とでも言うような小学生レベルの発想では？ G20の財務会議で一部の国が「ウクライナ支援金！ロシア凍結資産没収！」ってぶち上げて議長に「今日その話する席じゃないよね座ってろ」
って怒られてたな >>236
ロシアが今やってる事はNATOが先例としてやってきた事なんだから法的根拠にしてしまうと
脱アメリカ、脱欧米を促すだけになる >>230
だから何だ、ＮＡＴＯにとってほぼ直接な安保上の問題だし
中国、北朝鮮を考えれば日本に取ってもだ
バイデンが負ければ半世紀に及ぶ国際秩序の破壊と述べたが
そりゃそうだ、軍事大国が勝手に領土侵略していいなら台湾も日本も中国のもんになるわ >>236
例えば国連でも常任国が自国勝手で明らかな問題でも制裁が決まらないように
国際政治の基本て国家レベルを確実に縛れる法などは存在しないだぞ
だから法的でも目には目をも認めて国際的なモラルに少しでも近づけるを認めるわけだ 勘違いしてるバカがいるが欧米が好き勝手するだけの国際秩序なんてとうに崩壊してるのよ
欧米に虐げられてきた世界の殆どの国は内心ロシアに拍手喝采よ ロシアが外貨使って稼いだ金をロシア国外にプールしてたんでしょ？なんでウクライナ侵攻する前に自国に戻さなかったの？ >>236
ニカラグア事件では国際法を都合よく無視したくせにアメリカ(笑)
こういうところと自国法を域外に平気で適用するとこだなアメリカのクソなところは(笑) >>241
ロシア非難決議が否決されるだろう現状が
全てを物語ってるよね これもうなんぼでも拡大解釈して濫用出来るな
生意気で弱い国の資産は奪いたい放題 おい、日本もやれや
ってかまずお前らからやれってなりませんように 進展と言われても
皆で国際法破りって赤信号渡る覚悟くらいしか必要ないんでは
それをやったらお終いなのでやらないだけでお前が下院で誠意見せりゃいいんだろうに 先ずはアメリカがロシア資産を没収して見本を見せないと！
単にアメリカは共犯が欲しいのだろ？ The Wall Street Journal publishes the terms of the peace agreement between Ukraine and the Russian Federation, almost agreed upon but never signed in April 2022 - six weeks after the start of the war.
Key points of the deal:
- Ukraine can become a member of the EU, but cannot join military alliances such as NATO. That is, the neutral status of the country was envisaged with the prospect of joining the EU;
- of all the occupied territories, only Crimea would remain under unconditional Russian control. The future of the so-called “LPR” should have been determined during personal negotiations between Zelensky and Putin, which never took place. As for the other territories captured by the Russian Federation after February 24, 2022, The Wall Street Journal article does not mention them, but previously a number of people participating in the negotiations stated that Moscow agreed to withdraw Russian troops from them;
- foreign weapons and troops cannot be sent to Ukraine; >>250
the Ukrainian army had to be reduced to a certain size: Russia wanted no more than 85 thousand military personnel, 342 tanks, 519 artillery pieces. And the missile range is limited to 40 km. Ukraine wanted 250 thousand military personnel, 800 tanks and 1,900 artillery pieces. Arestovich previously stated that this issue should also have been agreed upon at a personal meeting between Zelensky and Putin;
- the Russian language should be used on an equal basis with Ukrainian in the official sphere. But Ukraine did not agree on this point;
- the Russians did not want the ICC to investigate war crimes in Ukraine. Ukraine did not agree on this point;
- Ukraine did not agree to the lifting of all mutual sanctions. >>251
The security of Ukraine under this treaty would have to be guaranteed by foreign states, which in the document included the USA, Great Britain, China, France and Russia. These countries would have the responsibility to defend Ukraine if the treaty were violated. But while the treaty remains in effect, the guarantors will be obliged to “terminate international treaties and agreements that are incompatible with the permanent neutrality of Ukraine,” including any promises of bilateral military assistance. International security guarantees would not apply to Crimea and Sevastopol.
Russia also wanted to add Belarus as a guarantor, and Ukraine - Turkey. おう早くやれや
ドルが基軸通貨の地位を失うのも間もなくやな🤣 >>253
the event of an attack on Ukraine, the Russian Federation proposed that all guarantor states agree on a response, but Kyiv was against this, since such a condition “would mean that a unified response is unlikely if Russia itself became the aggressor.” Ukraine, in the event of an attack, wanted its airspace to be closed, which would require the guarantor states to introduce a no-fly zone and provide weapons. The Russian Federation did not agree to this.
The WSJ comments that the document "appears to be based largely on the 1990 treaty that created a unified Germany."
Negotiations continued until June 2022, including via Zoom. >>255
Document From 2022 Reveals Putin’s Punishing Terms for Peace
Draft peace deal drawn up shortly after Russia’s invasion shows Ukraine was confronted with becoming a neutered state
https://www.wsj.com/world/russia-ukraine-peace-deal-2022-document-6e12e093?mod=world_lead_pos4 Biden's son received $65 thousand a month from a Ukrainian company. Congressional Interrogation Transcript Released
11:41, today
Last night, a transcript of Hunter Biden's interrogation in the US Congress was published.
The words “Ukraine” and “Ukrainian” appear there 43 times, and the name of the Burizma company, where Biden Jr. worked, appears 87 times.
Under questioning, Hunter denied that he was recruited to lobby for the company through his father. Although he admitted that at that time “political pressure” was put on Burizma (the owner of Burizma was the minister of the Yanukovych era, Zlochevsky, against whom criminal cases were opened after the Maidan).
Congressmen were interested in what accounts Biden Jr. received money from.
In particular, he was asked whether they had been transferred to the account of Rosemont Seneca Bohai. The president's son said he didn't remember. >>257
“The reason you were chosen to be on the Burisma board is because you are Biden,” one of the congressmen told him. Hunter tried to deny this with the following argument: “my father’s last name did not help me even when speeding when the police stopped me.”
Hunter Biden also named his salary at Burisma - an average of $65 thousand per month for five years. That is, only 3 million 900 thousand dollars.
When asked whether Burizma was interested in removing Prosecutor General Shokin, who was leading the case against it, Biden Jr. answered “I don’t know.”
Let us recall that Joe Biden officially confirmed his demand to fire Shokin. But at the same time, Biden’s side denies that this was connected with Burisma. >>258
Meanwhile, ex-People's Deputy Andriy Derkach, who is now accused of treason in Ukraine, and earlier American sanctions were imposed against him after he published recordings of conversations between Poroshenko and Biden, spoke out on the topic of interrogating Biden Jr.
In his telegram channel, Derkach wrote that Congress could invite a witness who managed Zlochevsky’s account, from which money was transferred to Biden Jr. to the accounts of the above-mentioned company Rosemont Seneca Bohai. This is Latvian citizen Alexey Kiselev, whose statement to the Office of the Prosecutor General from 2020 is published by Derkach. >>256
Press Secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov said that the draft peace agreement of March-April 2022 is no longer relevant.
“Conditions have changed,” Putin’s spokesman told reporters.
He claims that peace negotiations were stopped by Ukraine “at the command of London.”
According to Peskov, the Kremlin would not like to publish the draft of that document.
Let us recall that today its individual provisions were published in The Wall Street Journal. >>1
The Belgian fund Euroclear opposed the use of frozen assets of the Russian Federation
The main holder of frozen Russian assets in the West, the Belgian investment fund Euroclear, opposed the plan of the G7 (Big Seven) countries to use this money.
The company holds $191 billion of frozen assets of the Russian Central Bank out of 260.
The plan is to use these assets as collateral to borrow money and give it to Ukraine. They want to force Russia to pay it off, and if it refuses, then to confiscate the assets.
But Euroclear said this would have risks for the European financial system and expose the company to legal action. >>261
"Using assets that don't belong to you as collateral is very close to an indirect seizure or a commitment to future seizure, which could have exactly the same consequences for markets as a direct seizure. We don't see how the Russian central bank can simply admit that that everything was seized and that Euroclear’s obligations to them ceased to exist,” said Liv Mostry, CEO of the investment fund.
She expressed the hope that "reasonable and rational will prevail" so that confidence in the Euroclear system, European capital markets and the euro is not damaged.
Let us remind you that the United States advocates the confiscation of Russian assets , but Germany, France and Italy are against it . >>159
アメリカ基準だとロシアが相手の場合侵略の方が悪くなる(ウクライナはテロを行ってる)
パレスチナ相手の場合テロの方が悪くなる(イスラエルは侵略を行ってる) >>30
それ徴用工問題だろ？(差し押さえ対象の企業は直接の加害者) >>29
面白いなw法律って単語覚えた幼児みたいw ロシアの資産を担保にガチレバレッジ掛けてウクライナに使いまくって
完全な負債の塊にした後にロシアに返却すればいい
ロシアが負債を返却出来なかったら油田を差し押さえればいいし
一石二鳥やん 西側がロシアが負けるように力入れてればまだいいんだけど、
ヌルいでしょ
日本にしても、ロシアに散々権益をいいようにされたうえ、まだ執着して
なにやら購入してるわけだし
まだつきあうつもりでいるからなあ 軍事的にガチンコしたら負けるのは理解していて済で圧力かけて退かせようとしたけど
綺麗に失敗して完全に手詰まりになってるのが西側だぞ
生殺与奪を握られてることをどうやら分かってなかったようだな ロシアはこれまで国内外でたくさん悪いことをしてきたからな 当然の報いだ 可哀想とか微塵にも思わん ■ このスレッドは過去ログ倉庫に格納されています
